tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post3024843941829210335..comments2024-03-13T16:51:19.256+05:30Comments on babus of india: “IAS wants to be a groom in every marriage function and a corpse in a death ceremony”, IRS officer P Satya Prasanth writesBoI Teamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13245810347655135358noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-11542132279030744272016-04-09T18:05:41.069+05:302016-04-09T18:05:41.069+05:30Specialists and Generalist are complementary. Ther...Specialists and Generalist are complementary. There is no hierarchy between middle and sword. At particular point of time, one outsmarts another. SO please help and develop each other and spread the servitude. bye Sharadindu IIFM BhopalSharadindu Pandeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08173291309947202287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-3818126511080320192016-01-11T07:35:10.361+05:302016-01-11T07:35:10.361+05:30 I dont belong to any Aii india services.i worked ... I dont belong to any Aii india services.i worked with more than 100 IAS OFFICERS DURING MY SERVICE. i CAN SAY THE KIND OF OFFICERS JOINING NOW MOST OF THEM ARE INCAPABLE OF PROVIDING LEADERSHIP TTHROUGH THEIR CONDUCT, CHARACTER, INTEGRITY AND ABOVE ALL RESPECTING THE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND BETTER QUALIFIED.SOME OFFICERS ARE CHUNGI BABU LEVEL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-31614682578988773292015-12-28T21:02:33.207+05:302015-12-28T21:02:33.207+05:30I have an understanding that an work environment p...I have an understanding that an work environment plays a vital role in the mood and working capacity of employees, for it provides a moral as well as social incentive.<br />An employee spends most of his time in his office, his efficiency and productivity is directly linked to the environment at the workplace, so it’s imperative to have a congenial ambience at the workplace. A workplace however large or small,private or government has to be driven by efficiency and achievement that manifests itself in the form of tangible results for the organization, and is rewarding for the employee. Less productive inputs and lower efficiency levels are bound to affect the business and jeopardize its sustainability and survival.<br />Workplace should be ideally designed, maintained keeping in view the employees productivity and efficiency.In general, workplaces should make employees feel included, valued, cared for, to bring out the best from them. Below mentioned are the basic requirements that should be present for a viable environment to improve productivity and efficiency.<br />I would like to enumerate the infrastructure conditions of my office:<br />1. Furniture and Space: There is very less space, infact there are sections which doesn't have space allotted to them, and sections which has space allotted has a huge disparity in space allotted vis-a-vis the strength of the officers posted.<br />What should be ideally: A dedicated space is a basic requirement for an officer or employee.<br />2. Technical Aspects: Computers are few in numbers,with outdated softwares.<br />What should be ideally: Keeping Our honourable Prime Minister Vision’s ‘Digital India’ in view, Latest applications and software that offers quick connectivity and access , It Comprises of printer, computer, xerox machines along with Internet Connectivity-A dedicated Internet kiosk on each floor to help employees to be updated to the latest changes wrt to rules,laws,circulars,notifications.<br />Creating a database and shared across all the commissionerates for better understanding,show cause issue,adjudication,cestat cases,audit objections etc for smooth and efficient operation.Sharing of knowledge should be done regularly.<br />3. Electrical appliances,Cleaning and Dusting-It is archaic and messy,very dirty.The office infrastructure condition has degraded retrospectively.<br />It is never cleaned,a thick layer of dust has built up on all the shelves,almirahs,cobwebs in the corners,old papers piled up everywhere,faeces of lizard,big mouses can be seen running.To summarize i would never prefer working in office when it gets dark.<br />What should be ideally: As you have mentioned.<br />4. Drinking water facility: Sadly,the drinking water facility is also in a poor state.<br />5. Toilets: A colleague of mine suffered from a urinary tract problem so it's understandable in what state it is, i never use it to be honest.I better go to other places.<br />In my opinion above mentioned are the basic amenities to be present for a human being. Sadly, but true all is missing.<br />Above said working conditions exists only for non-Group A officers, I tried to express my discontent to my seniors (IRS) via various forums and they are well aware with existing situations but no fruitful action has been taken. My heart cries out at times for I feel deprived, discriminated and discouraged working for government of India.<br />At times I wonder all IRS were an aspiring IAS who takes charge of an entire district and here it is a office which lacks due attention or to be honest an indifferent behaviour towards it's subordinates.<br />Sir, I am a group-B officer working with CBEC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-47079718944459977522015-12-22T17:19:39.781+05:302015-12-22T17:19:39.781+05:30Dear colleague from the ITD, pl do not call every ...Dear colleague from the ITD, pl do not call every DR arrogant and every other PR in ITD as docile. Please do not bring your personal animosity with a few individuals, into this forum. If every DR in ITD has been arrogant to you, could you have progressed to whatever stage you are now? DRs are not just ACs, but Commissioners and Chief Commissioners as well. If you are still a victim of something, please take it up with your higher ups. But this is not the forum for sharing personal things. Take care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-60337771227646006732015-12-21T19:44:37.111+05:302015-12-21T19:44:37.111+05:30I completely agree with the following comment
&qu...I completely agree with the following comment<br /><br />"Every service is selfish to the core. Every one wants themselves to be projected as the supreme. What the IAS is doing for Group-A services, the same thing Group-A services are doing to their colleagues. These officers classify themselves as Direct Recruits and don't want their fellow officers to be promoted to Group-A posts. Even if they are promoted to Group-A, they are posted in side lined posts. These so called Direct Recruits have no respect for their colleagues of the age of their parents and do not let them progress. For example, I can very well relate to promotee IRS officers as I know one of them very well. The DRs do not want their colleague ITOs to be promoted to Group-A as that will some how hurt the ego of DRs. But, the logc here is promotee officers(lucky ones) retire as Additional Commissioners and never rise to higher level. So, there is going to be no competition between DRs and promotee officers during consideration for promotion as officers get promotion upto level of Addl.Cit in a timely manner. So, it does not hamper the chances of these DRs. Even then, these DRs do not want others to progress. They consider themselves as Gods. Only God can save such a selfish country"<br /><br />Infact, DRs in the IT dept are very arrogant when it comes to dealing with their promotee colleagues. Everyone deserves a right for a better future. I as a citizen accept your arguements regd parity with IAS. At the same time, I also request you not to ill treat your colleagues nor to block their promotions. There is no smoke without fire. So, there are certainly valid reasons for agitation and chaos with in IT. I hope that these arguements are taken in a positive manner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-49781648344976095632015-12-18T19:16:25.522+05:302015-12-18T19:16:25.522+05:30Everywhere in the developed world it is the electe...Everywhere in the developed world it is the elected representatives or the experts who control the bureaucracy.Strangely in our country it is the generalist bureaucracy called IAS which controls every deptt without any real knowlege of anything.The peculiar speciment called district mag <br />istrate was created by the british to subjugate the citizens but unfortunately this oxymoron with feudal privileges is being continued even in the 21st century.They have made our great nation an object of ridicule in the civilized world.How long the country is going to suffer this outdated service?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-74671477280965770062015-12-18T17:43:49.456+05:302015-12-18T17:43:49.456+05:30And then what an IAS says has to be seen in the li...And then what an IAS says has to be seen in the light of activities of its past members like Ajit Jogi, Arvind Joshi & Tinu Joshi, Vinod Kumar, Ashok Singhvi, Neera Yadav, Rajendra Kumar??? What a perverted logic Sachin. Offence definitely meant !!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-7051570926508468582015-12-18T17:33:08.976+05:302015-12-18T17:33:08.976+05:30The concept of Home Secretary is itself superfluou...The concept of Home Secretary is itself superfluous, atleast in State Governments. Let the DGP do the all the functions of Home Secretary. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-60891842561287303792015-12-18T17:31:05.733+05:302015-12-18T17:31:05.733+05:30Why should that controlling officer officer be ano...Why should that controlling officer officer be another career bureaucrat? Across the world that controlling officer is an elected representative or a judicial magistrate. Definitely not another career bureaucrat. And definitely not another self-aggrandising bureaucratic lobby or cartel like IAS. Come out of that colonial mindset boss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-56527729097458019222015-12-18T16:07:13.233+05:302015-12-18T16:07:13.233+05:30Police Service is vested with raw power and they a...Police Service is vested with raw power and they are likely to misuse the power left to themselves. They are to be controlled through non police official. That is why right from village, to town, to talook/block, to sub division, to district, to state secretariat there is always a Civilian officer to countercheck the power of police for the benefit of the public. Home Secretary should not be from IPS. The IAS can man the post of HS because of the exposure the IAS has got in sub divisions, districts and state secretariats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-9376124761144255472015-12-16T21:21:10.297+05:302015-12-16T21:21:10.297+05:30Dear Sachin,by the same token, view the tirade aga...Dear Sachin,by the same token, view the tirade against IAS in the light of activities of Rajender Kumar,S.P.Singh( both of AGMUT cadre),Ashok Sanghi(Rajasthan cadre), all belonging to IAS and accused of corruption recently.All these services are corrupt in varying extent,only the degree of corruption differs.Time to recruit one third of senior posts through lateral induction, just like in USA.sitendra kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09298402712518102952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-14535370776059218552015-12-15T21:21:20.506+05:302015-12-15T21:21:20.506+05:30Hi the duties of IAS at local tier you are talking...Hi the duties of IAS at local tier you are talking are actually the duties of the democratically elected leaders in a democracy. Even after enactment of 73rd and 7 4th Amendment to the Constitution, you IAS guys are not allowing devolution of powers to the local or third tier only because you guys lose ground then and there will be nothing for you to talk about your achievements and boast yourselves of. Mind you, you cannot hold public darbars because it is not the regime of the British. Now it is the time for democracy at grassroots level. Leave your authority and work under democratically elected leaders in third tier. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-88970169167929637742015-12-15T21:11:20.271+05:302015-12-15T21:11:20.271+05:30My friend ,it is your wishful thinking that these ...My friend ,it is your wishful thinking that these arrogant people are going to end their hegemony easily just by persuasion.Did the british leave India simply on request?They have to be shown their place by some truly democratic leader who adopts the best international practices in governance.These semi-colonial generalists will have no place in such a system and gradually wither away.Let us wait for some more time for this to happen.And please note-all this blabbering by the likes of Vivek Rae shows that they are really scared this time and that is why reacting agressively.But change is inevitable despite all the hurdles being created by them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-41344686455184615262015-12-15T21:06:17.198+05:302015-12-15T21:06:17.198+05:30Bureaucrats may be working against each other and ...Bureaucrats may be working against each other and said to defend their own positions. So let us see views of some neutral person. Please check this article written by our NITI Aayog Vice Chairman Arvind Panagariya.<br />http://yojana.gov.in/cms/(S(bxzmxa451myu43mmcsopu02d))/pdf/Yojana/English/2005/Aug_Vol49_No8.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-83686259634758926952015-12-15T21:00:58.708+05:302015-12-15T21:00:58.708+05:30Yes sir, even the britishers used to have interfac...Yes sir, even the britishers used to have interface with the masses, treating them like dirt.Same thing is copied by the present day DMs-with a battery of vehicles and orderlies to serve them.Of course there are some honourable exceptions.The experts coming from other parts of the world laugh at these feudal practices.And in developed countries even the head of IRS is a noted attorney or an economist.The concept of career bureaucrats rising to higher position is simply not acceptable in any developed country.For knowing this , you will have to come out of the ghetto mentality and look at the developed part of the world .But our bureaucrats cannot simply accept this because of their self-serving attitude.That is why our bureaucracy is considered one of the worst in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-12888154077340818802015-12-15T20:30:40.971+05:302015-12-15T20:30:40.971+05:30What an IRS officer says has to be seen in the lig...What an IRS officer says has to be seen in the light of activities of its past member- Kejriwal.. No offence..sachinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873408926281971527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-88061996397596474902015-12-15T19:38:03.386+05:302015-12-15T19:38:03.386+05:30Coordination function the IAS are talking is nothi...Coordination function the IAS are talking is nothing but a gimmick. The IAS keep IAS as head of every department, which creates a virtual private network of IAS either to promote or protect one another. Coordination is only a pretext to promote IAS. An IAS has better reach and accessibility to other IAS for either quick response or even manipulation because the IAS treat another IAS matter as 'ghar ki mamla'. The so called coordination function can be performed by anyone by virtue of the position as the Head of the Department but not because somebody belongs to a particular Service. So IAS friends, head only those departments where there is no functionally specialised Service and leave the post of HoD to those Departmental Personnel which have Organised Group A Services. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-76969479586865238602015-12-15T19:24:03.444+05:302015-12-15T19:24:03.444+05:30In fact there is no need of IAS in system, not eve...In fact there is no need of IAS in system, not even at level of district. let all departments do their respective work and report to senior most boss, who will report to CM/PM. why dont you implement it, let us see what happens,,lets do this experiment---<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-82339512131265586972015-12-15T18:03:00.032+05:302015-12-15T18:03:00.032+05:30IAS babus if you don't want this backlash then...IAS babus if you don't want this backlash then stop behaving as big brother, stop discriminating against other services in pay, empanelment, appointment, dfft, increments, etc. Now don't advice us to no to wash diety linen in public. You guys made the linen dirty. So face it now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-79780566710704198162015-12-15T17:58:13.707+05:302015-12-15T17:58:13.707+05:30Oh now IAS baby's started commenting in the ga...Oh now IAS baby's started commenting in the garb of non civil servants. "I don't belong to any service" kind of comments are coming up. Content 0f the comment itself will reveal that those are by IAS guys. One says don't want u r dirty linen in public. So you guys expect to discriminate us in private and public openly and expect us to remain silent? Come on if u don't want this kind of backlash stop your hegemony first. Don't be cowards and comment in the garb of non civil servants. Show at least some guts and spine. Nobody is going to fall for your crocodile tears hear. Fight is out in the open now. Let the people decide. I am okay if all civil services are abolished but definitely don't want an IAS raj.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-76039848058881168882015-12-15T17:28:32.061+05:302015-12-15T17:28:32.061+05:30Hahaha...lol. The fight between the services is l...Hahaha...lol. The fight between the services is like saying that I am in the last bench because the first bench is not occupied by me. Good Mirror showing activity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-57901679302474084762015-12-15T17:26:35.986+05:302015-12-15T17:26:35.986+05:30Nice way to end it,very good analysis.
Nice way to end it,very good analysis.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-33409910377327610002015-12-15T16:55:52.168+05:302015-12-15T16:55:52.168+05:30Please define an expert.Stop this canard of Please...Please define an expert.Stop this canard of Please . Specialists vs Generalist debate. How is it that all other services coming through the same system start calling themselves as experts. If it is the rtaining that you get at respective institutes that makes you an expert than the IAS gets its training in the field of Administration and Governance. IAS is as much a specialist as other services claim to be and also the adaptability to manage situations. IAS is the only AIS/Central Civil service which is designed to have direct interface with the masses. So, in the name of seeking pay parity, for empanellment and other service matters, do not base arguments denigrating one service to make your point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-34578622320693127702015-12-15T15:39:28.319+05:302015-12-15T15:39:28.319+05:30Moreover I personally wonder if the attitude towar...Moreover I personally wonder if the attitude towards each service is so cold in the public itself how do people deal with the departments in office in personal. There is so much of wastage and loss of efficiency due to this friction in the inter-department transactions , is it only me or anyone else is able to see it.<br /><br />Let us hypothetically believe that the IAS does not exist anymore from tomorrow.Please give a minute to this idea, I dont see anything changing, IRS Revenue secretary will fight out with the IPS Home secretary saying that Revenue is more important than law and order, So Revenue secretary should be given Mos Status and made to sit before the home secretary on Republic Day parade, The Foreign secretary is not important as he does not maintain law and order in the country. Let us all start ranking the services once more which is acceptable to all of the civil servants so that the right man gets the due share....( Doesn't it look like some kitchen politic of Saas Bahu serial).<br /><br />Let us all grow up and behave in a mature manner, we all had a shot and have the serenity to respect our own services , By all this mud fighting we are only demeaning our own services and degrading the standards of a civil servant. the message is very clear, there is no end to it. The people who are meaningful and helpful to the system will always remain there and pass the test of times.<br /><br />I wonder if any IPS officer invites any IRS officer or any other officer of the civil services group A over a cup of tea in such an atmosphere. The things are only getting worse, the basic credibility of the UPSC exam and the civil services it at stake and you all are to understand the issue. If you cant talk to each other in the eye, how do you expect any smooth functioning of the department.<br />I strongly believe this is only fulfilling personal agenda of few miscreants in the system who can never be happy. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7809414561174316144.post-55646989594562023062015-12-15T15:33:32.944+05:302015-12-15T15:33:32.944+05:30All this talk of faith in civil service is only an...All this talk of faith in civil service is only an alibi for self-perpetuation by the IAS lobby to continue a system of generalist hegomony which is not prevalent in any developed country.It is only the experts or the specialists who head the top hierarchy in govt in the devoloped nations. In india we have an archaic system of generalists running the system which is blocking country's progress.So the need of the hour is to abolish this outdated system run by self-serving bureaucrats, otherwise the nation continues to suffer the parasites who claim to be the premiers in a democracy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com